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   <title>BBVA can Create False Accounts Without Valid IDs</title>
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   <published>2007-03-14T10:17:50Z</published>
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   <summary>Some time Ago, Ivan Forcada, some short time after that he was victim of a fraud, he contacted a friend that knew a manager of a subsidiary of BBVA bank. This manager told him to bring his documents, to check...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Some time Ago, Ivan Forcada, some short time after that he was victim of a 
fraud, he contacted a friend that knew a manager of a subsidiary of BBVA bank. 
This manager told him to bring his documents, to check his case.<br>
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Ivan Forcada tells:<br>
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I got early at the bank, to meet with this manager of BBVA, and I gave him all 
my documents, and told him about my case, and told him that I suspected that 
someone inside the bank made the fraud.<br>
<br>
This manager told me: Don't worry, we will check it, and really I think is very 
difficult that the fraud was made by someone inside the bank, because BBVA has a 
very secure and expensive system.<br>
<br>
So, I gave him the account number, where my money was fraudulent deposited to, 
and he check the system. He gave me more data, and told me that the account was 
closed. Right away, he got a phone call, from people of BBVA security, asking 
him why he was checking that account, and that he had no permission to do it.<br>
<br>
So, this manager told me, now I belive you, and I think your case is difficult, 
and the true is that I offer the Internet Service daily to many customers, and 
now I have panic to keep doing it, bacause now I know their money would be in 
danger.<br>
<br>
He told me, I did everything I could, and really can't help you.<br>
<br>
So, I thank him, and gone away<br>
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The important in this, is that this manager realize that the frauds really were 
made by someone inside main headquarter of BBVA Bancomer, from security, and he 
thought that it was strange that someone from security told him to not check an 
account.<br>
<br>
The address registered in the account that recived the fraudulen money, was 
incomplete, without street, without number, only it was registered: Mexico City<br>
Have you ever seen that a bank accept an ID without street address? or street 
number?<br>
<br>
**********************<br>
The complete data of this account was the following:<br>
Account: 1258170533<br>
name: JULIA ELIZABETH VANEGAS CABALLERO<br>
Birth: 28/03/1977<br>
RFC: VACJ770328 EQ0<br>
Status: Married<br>
Occupation: Sales<br>
<b>Address: México, .D.F.</b></p>
<p>ID number: 4637495234<br>
4637495234001<br>
ID Expiration: 31/12/2009<br>
E mail: vane@hotmail.com<br>
Bank: BBVA BANCOMER<br>
subsidiary 0347<br>
Opened: 31/08/2004<br>
Closed: 14/01/2005<br>
**********************<br>
<br>
BBVA Bancomer has deny all this data to the Mexican Laws, saying that is &quot;Bank 
Secret&quot;, and is hidding all the information to authorities and defrauded 
customers.</p>]]>
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   <title>BBVA Bancomer gets angry with Theirs Customers</title>
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   <published>2007-03-12T23:10:02Z</published>
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   <summary>BBVA Bancomer gets angry with theirs customers that reclaim their money, and ask information. Hugo Guerra had an account in BBVA Bancomer, and was stolen about USD 900,000.- dollars, by employees of the Bank. The Bank refused to return the...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>BBVA Bancomer gets angry with theirs customers that reclaim their money, and 
ask information.<br>
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Hugo Guerra had an account in BBVA Bancomer, and was stolen about USD 900,000.- 
dollars, by employees of the Bank.<br>
The Bank refused to return the money, even when the mexican laws says that, when 
an employee of a bank stole money, the bank is responsible.<br>
After some months, the bank only gave him USD 540,000.- Dollars, and did not 
return him the rest, USD 360,000.- dollars.<br>
<br>
Hugo Guerra has been trying to find to an ex functionary of the bank, because 
BBVA Bancomer does not want to return the rest of the money.<br>
<br>
Some people that has meet to the high functionaries of the bank, has told that 
BBVA Bancomer is Angry with this customer, because He keeps talking about the 
fraud, when he has the Right to reclaim his own money, that was stoled by an 
employee of the bank, and when the bank was responsible of his money.<br>
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<p>In the case of another customer, Ivan Forcada, He reclaimed his money, that 
was stolen by an internet fraud, and ask information about the thief, and BBVA 
Bancomer also refused to return his money (about USD 4,400 dollars), and also 
refused to give any information about the thief.<br>
So, he made a web page named fraudesbancomer.com, and BBVA Bancomer got angry 
with him too, and ask to the goverment, to give him a monetary penalty because 
the bank reclaimed that the domain name was using the word &quot;bancomer&quot; of his 
property. This action attempted against the liberty of free speech in Mexico.<br>
Even after the page was closed, BBVA Bancomer keep asking to the goverment to 
give him the monetary penalty, even when the money is going to be for the 
goverment.</p>
<p>So, even when Ivan Forcada was a customer who used to trust his money to BBVA 
Bancomer, now he is been threaten by the bank, and the bank also wants him to 
pay money because he speak out to the world about this injustices in Mexico.<br>
<br>
This is the relationship between BBVA Bancomer and their customers, intead of 
give they good atention, and take care of the money they deposited with them, 
they are treated like thiefs, and recieve threats.</p>]]>
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   <title>BBVA Bancomer Communicates with a Thief</title>
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   <published>2007-03-12T21:56:38Z</published>
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   <summary><![CDATA[On August 24th of 2006, on a mexican diary called &quot;Diario Monitor&quot;, it is mentioned that it has been detected a phone call from main headquarter of BBVA Bancomer in Mexico City, to the house of the thief that made...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>On August 24th of 2006, on a mexican diary called &quot;Diario Monitor&quot;, it is 
mentioned that it has been detected a phone call from main headquarter of BBVA 
Bancomer in Mexico City, to the house of the thief that made an internet online 
fraud, against one customer of the same bank, and this strange call only 
demostrate that the fraud was made inside BBVA Bancomer.<br>
<br>
This information can be consulted on &quot;Diaro Monitor&quot;, in spanish:<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.diariomonitor.com.mx/hemeroteca/1156397622/pais-06-24082006.pdf">
http://www.diariomonitor.com.mx/hemeroteca/1156397622/pais-06-24082006.pdf</a></p>
<p>The question is, why BBVA Bancomer had to link with this thief?<br>
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<p>The company that was stolen, GDC Jose Luis Rojo y Arabi, a gruff former 
Mexican police commander, told that they detected the number where the call was 
made, and in presence of a mexican reporter of Televisa &quot;Guillermo Lopez 
Portillo&quot;, they made a call to that number, and told they that the reporter was 
present, and in a few minutes, this reporter recieved a call asking him to 
confirm if he was there.</p>
<p>The coverage was very extensive and was presented a short resume on TV:<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4gvDk0q_OM">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4gvDk0q_OM</a></p>
<p>At the day after that, the number that they called at, was cancelled, leaving 
a suspect of how could this be done so quickly, when a normal telephone line in 
Mexico takes some weeks to be cancelled.</p>]]>
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   <title>In Mexico, BBVA Bancomer may make fraud your problem</title>
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   <published>2007-03-12T07:48:02Z</published>
   <updated>2007-03-18T03:19:28Z</updated>
   
   <summary>MEXICO CITY — One morning last July Alejandro Sanchez got a worried phone call from the branch manager at his bank. There had been some unusual activity on his account. “She asked if I had made some transfers,” said Sanchez,...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>MEXICO CITY — One morning last July Alejandro Sanchez got a worried phone 
call from the branch manager at his bank.<br>
<br>
There had been some unusual activity on his account.<br>
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“She asked if I had made some transfers,” said Sanchez, 46. “She told me not to 
worry and she would call me back.”<br>
<br>
A few hours later somber bank officials showed up at his office to advise him 
that his company accounts, totaling almost $300,000, had been temporarily 
blocked for security reasons. Sanchez says he was assured it was all “a 
misunderstanding.”<br>
<br>
It wasn’t until a week later that the bank told him he had been a victim of 
Internet fraud. All his money was gone.<br>
<br>
But the bank still insisted he shouldn’t worry. “They said it was being 
investigated and I would get my money back,” said Sanchez, a father of three and 
the Mexico representative for a large North Carolina electrical engineering firm, 
Reliance Electric.<br>
<br>
But almost a year later Sanchez hasn’t seen a cent. And his bank — Spanish-owned 
BBVA Bancomer and Latin America’s second-largest financial institution — says he 
won’t get any.<br>
<br>
Such is the fate, it seems, of Mexican victims of online bank fraud. Whereas 
banks in the United States and Europe guarantee the security of client accounts, 
in Mexico the rules are reversed.</p>]]>
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<p>“The banks simply deny any responsibility,” said Enrique Arias, director of 
financial analysis for the National Commission for the Protection and Defense of 
Financial Service Users, CONDUSEF. “Unfortunately there is a lack of regulation 
and clients have little recourse.”<br>
<br>
In recent months dozens of cases have appeared in the Mexican press and on an 
Internet Web site decrying online fraud. Banking authorities admit there is a 
problem, with losses in the millions of dollars. But so far little is being done 
to address it, or to help victims retrieve their funds.<br>
<br>
“It’s a case of benign neglect,” said Tom Cash, a business intelligence expert 
with Kroll, a U.S. risk consultancy company that has advised a number of banks 
in Mexico. “Absent a customer backlash, they are going to continue looking at it 
with indifference.”<br>
<br>
Customers are now beginning to speak out, as well as file a number of lawsuits 
against two foreign-owned banks, Santander Serfin and BBVA Bancomer.<br>
<br>
One victim, Jose Luis Rojo y Arabi, a gruff former Mexican police commander, is 
organizing a group of complainants in a class-action lawsuit seeking to have the 
banks thrown out of Mexico.<br>
<br>
“We are not going to win,” said Rojo y Arabi, who heads a private security firm 
specializing in rooting out corruption. “But we are going to kick up such a 
storm of bad publicity that everyone is going to get their money back.”<br>
<br>
He is seething after someone fraudulently withdrew about $25,000 from his BBVA 
Bancomer accounts over two days in February. The bank insinuated his company’s 
long-serving accountant was responsible. After she passed a lie detector test, 
Royo y Arabi is convinced the fraud was carried out hackers in cahoots with bank 
staff.<br>
<br>
“The bank doesn’t seem to care,” he said. “They behave like they are at the 
beach, happy as clams.”<br>
Ivan Forcada, a 30-year-old self-employed civil engineer, lost almost $5,000 
from his account at BBVA Bancomer and can’t afford attorney fees.<br>
<br>
Forcada was saving up to buy a car when he discovered four fraudulent transfers, 
including $300 cash drawn on his bank credit card. The bank turned down his 
claim and recently wrote him a letter informing him that he now owes $400 
interest on the credit card debt. He says he has also been threatened with a 
lien on his house if he doesn’t pay.<br>
<br>
“They treat you as if you are the one committing fraud, or else as a careless 
idiot for not looking after your password,” he said. “But it’s their internal 
controls that failed.”<br>
<br>
Forcada and others say a lack of regulation in Mexico has left the Internet 
banking system hopelessly vulnerable to fraud, while banks make millions 
promoting it to their clients as a fail-safe and convenient way to handle money.<br>
<br>
The truth, they say, is that some — though not all — Mexican banks have failed 
to invest sufficiently in proper security systems and fire walls since online 
banking was introduced in that country about six years ago. Banks also rely on 
sloppy employment practices, including outsourcing many jobs to temporary 
employees over whom they exercise little control.<br>
<br>
Arias, 36, a former bank auditor, says banks typically hide behind bank secrecy 
laws to avoid divulging information that might incriminate their staff. When 
staff members are caught, banks reportedly prefer not to prosecute in return for 
at least partial recovery of the stolen funds. Analysts say banks seek to limit 
damage to their reputations, which could undermine public confidence and cause a 
run on the bank’s assets.<br>
<br>
But critics say that policy may prove counterproductive in the long run if not 
enough is done to bring fraud under control. For example, banks are eager to 
sign up anyone who comes in the door, but fail to check the personal information 
of new clients, creating a hackers paradise, Arias said.<br>
<br>
Online banking is expanding rapidly in Mexico, proving lucrative for the banks. 
In 2005, transactions via Internet tripled from 13.3-million to 42-million, 
according to the Bank of Mexico.<br>
<br>
Officially, Mexican police acknowledge only $2-million in reported cases of 
online bank fraud. But CONDUSEF estimates the figure to be as high as $600-million, 
affecting as many as one in 3,000 accounts.<br>
<br>
The largest known case involves $1.2-million being contested in court, involving 
Banamex, a U.S.-owned bank, and a stock market trading company, according to 
local media reports.<br>
<br>
“In Mexico, nothing happens,” said Cristina Ramirez, a former top bank executive 
at Chase Manhattan, who saw $100,000 disappear from her account the day after 
Christmas. “It comes out in the press and no one pays any interest. People here 
are used to getting (cheated) and not being able to defend themselves.”<br>
<br>
Analysts say the worst offenders are the big Spanish banks, Santan­der and BBVA, 
which have busily gobbled up banks in this hemisphere in recent years. They 
recently began moving into the U.S. market. BBVA last week announced a major 
acquisition in Texas, making it that state’s fourth-largest bank.<br>
<br>
Citibank subsidiary Banamex has also been hit hard by fraud, but in most cases 
the bank accepted responsibility and reimbursed clients. Other smaller Mexican 
banks have also adopted rigorous security and reportedly have a far lower rate 
of fraud. One bank, Ixe, even installs special security devices on home 
computers to protect users.<br>
<br>
Santander declined requests for an interview. In a written response to questions, 
BBVA said it does offer fraud guarantee to its clients, as well as special 
antifraud services, including a system whereby a client can request that he be 
advised by cellular text messaging of any transaction over a certain amount.<br>
<br>
But the bank denied it was at fault, instead asserting that online fraud 
targeted “the weakest link in the chain: the client.”<br>
<br>
In most cases the victims were long-time bank customers, with “preferred client” 
status. Typically the fraud took place either at the weekend or after hours. The 
fraudulent transfers were also wildly at variance with the clients’ normal 
account activity, but the banks took no action to intervene.<br>
<br>
Alejandro Sanchez said it wasn’t until 40 days after the fraud on his accounts 
that BBVA Bancomer informed him that his money could not be retrieved.<br>
<br>
“I nearly fell off my chair,” he said.<br>
<br>
BBVA Bancomer gave Sanchez a letter saying that the missing money had been 
transferred by use of his confidential password, which the bank said was “the 
exclusive knowledge of the account holder.”<br>
<br>
It went on: “We regret to inform you that the operations were carried out 
without the responsibility of the (banking) institution.”<br>
<br>
The bank later contacted him to say it had recovered about $50,000. But the bank 
refused to give it to him until he sign a letter waiving any legal claim against 
the banks over the outstanding amount.<br>
<br>
“I told them to go to hell,” he said.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, Mexican authorities are studying bank reform. A new bank law approved 
by Congress in March was six years in the making. But analysts say it is already 
out of date and doesn’t tackle bank secrecy issues.<br>
While the law does force banks to give up information about the destination of 
fraudulent transfers, Arias says it does not go far enough.<br>
<br>
For instance, banks are not required to provide the names of staff who handled 
accounts hit by fraud, or the times they had access.<br>
<br>
On the positive side, banks must now warn clients about the risks of online 
banking, as well as updating their security systems.<br>
<br>
The new rules “will make the use of Internet banking in Mexico one of the safest 
in the world,” said Carlos Marmolejo, a spokesman for the Banking Commission.<br>
<br>
But Sanchez and the other victims aren’t holding their breath. All have either 
switched banks or stopped accessing their accounts online.<br>
<br>
“They expect us to deposit our money and our faith in banks,” he said. “But the 
way things are, we might be better off going back to the days when we kept our 
money under the mattress.”<br>
<br>
Times Latin America correspondent David Adams can be contacted at dadams@sptimes.com. 
Gina Manfredo is a freelance reporter based in Mexico City.</p>
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